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Tue. Aug 03, 2004

Women and Terrorism

A few days ago, Dean Esmay wrote something that’s had me pondering.

I cannot find a photograph of Farida Goolam Mohamed Ahmed, although I’d love it if someone could find us a picture of her. However, thanks to Ms. Malkin, I did find this photo of Aafia Siddiqui, and I note that, without her head scarf, she doesn’t look much different from Polish, Spanish, Armenian, Indian, or Israeli women I’ve run across. I’ve got relatives who look a lot like that woman, and I’m as lilly-white as they come.

I also note the rather obvious fact that the lady in question is, uhm, female. And I find myself remembering that not long ago, before we stopped Saddam from paying Palestinian terrorists, and the wall began to go up, the Israelis were finding that Palestinian terrorists were starting to use women once they figured out that the Israelis concentrated mostly on scrutinizing men.

So I must point out that here we have a case of a woman who could easily pass for a citizen of many European, Asian, or southern African nations, using a non-Arab passport, who seems to be a terrorist.

Can you folks on the Right who are absolutely convinced that we must target Arab-looking males with Arab passports, and that terrorists are casually “traipsing across the border,” explain to me what exactly your reasoning is again? Because it seems to me that not only are our law-enforcement authorities doing a good job, but that profiling people based on sex or perceived nationality is a fool’s game.

The question that sticks with me is, “does anyone really suppose no one could find women like her who’d be interested in helping groups that hate America?

A very interesting question, one in which I am doubly out of context. I am not a terrorist, nor am I a woman. With each of these mindsets, independently … well, let’s just say that in my lifetime I’ve had a lot of trouble “getting inside” those mindsets. Independently. Combine them, and I’m a bit like a 15th century man pondering his own moving image on TV. He not only doesn’t understand the imaging and display device, he doesn’t understand the electricity that powers it. He’s simply scared.

This rarely stops him from sharing his observations and predictions about the mystery, though.

I’ve been putting some thought into the methods we use to screen air passengers, and wondering how you can rationally improve a system that currently searches 5 year olds and their great-grandmothers, without invoking cries of “profiling!”

Profiling. It’s gained such an ugly connotation. So much so, I wondered if you could even create a system that was willing to say, “we believe 98% of our risk comes from males, aged 17-50” (a group I would note includes me). You would automatically focus your limited resources on perhaps 40% of the number you search now.

Would there be cries of “sexism,” or even “ageism”? Of course. But my thinking was you could reasonably argue them down. Then along comes Dean with his question about women.

I have a question of my own. Could 19 women have planned and executed 9/11? This is not a sexist question of capability, I have no doubt women could have planned it, trained to fly the jets, and all the other physical aspects. I guess I’m asking a more psychological question. Could 19 women work together for months, even years, to plan the horrible deaths of thousands of innocents … and all maintain their will to kill.

I don’t know. My gut says no, but my gut is informed by a lifetime of exposure to American women. I think our culture would make it hard for such a group to maintain that “will to kill.” A group of mothers, daughters, sisters. But is it just cultural? Is there enough native maternal instinct in the average woman on this planet to make her turn away from such an act?

You tell me.

But on the shorter term security question, I’d have no problem with focusing on men 17-50. Until I’m shown terrorists are changing their tactics and exclusively recruiting women (or old men), i.e., reacting to us instead of vice-versa, I figure it’s a much better application of resources to risk than what we have now.

Peanut Gallery

1  Jessica wrote:

What if the “native maternal instinct” runs the other way—i.e. a woman decides to become a terrorist to punish the country or institution she blames for the death of her child? See, for example, the black widows of Chechnya. And I think one of the female Palestinian bombers, or would-be bombers, had a brother who was either killed or was a suicide bomber himself.

2  Reid wrote:

I agree, that kind of personal scar can certainly provide an individual with powerful motivation, male or female. And the article you link points out “The two wars in Chechnya have left 100,000 people dead” ... that’s a significant number of mothers, daughters, and sisters who might be so motivated. But in Chechnya and in Palestine, these have been individual suicide attacks.

Men have gathered in groups large and small and plotted warfare for … well, nearly as long as there’s been man. Relentlessly, without hesitation or second thoughts. Have we now reached the point of human evolution where women are also willing to gather in groups to do the same … relentlessly, without hesitation or second thoughts?

Maybe this is what I’m trying (and mostly failing) to get at. I’ve long known that men are absolute animals (hey, I am one), and capable of banding together to do evil deeds beyond my imagination. I guess there’s a part of me that harbors hope that women had either evolved beyond that capability, or never had it to begin with. That there might be something innate within that would make at least one of those theoretical 19 women refuse to kill innocents because she’d lost a loved one.

As I said, I really don’t know. So much of this crosses cultural and gender lines, it’s somewhat veiled to me.

Comment by Reid · 08/03/04 10:28 PM
3  Dean Esmay wrote:

I am of course a well-known believer of the inequality of the sexes. I think the 9/11 attacks would run against the female psyche. Physically, intellectually capable of it, yes. A female could mastermind it too, yes indeedy—just look at such historic figures as Ma Barker or Joan of Arc.

That said, for a variety of reasons statistical and biological, it will usually be men plotting and executing such things, while women work their own destructive ways differently. That said, the Palestinian female suicide bombers and, as Jessica points out, the Chechen “black widows,” prove to me, fairly effectively, that if you put your efforts on scrutinizing men, the enemy is no fool and will notice this.

4  Athena wrote:

Of course women could have pulled off 9-11. Not American women, nor any Westernized women, but if you understand Islamist indoctrination, it’s obvious these women have the ability to be vipers just as much as their husbands/men.

5  John wrote:

French, German, Italian and Japanese terror groups were successful in recruiting women for violent acts. These ranged from bombs in restaurants to bombs in cars, even up to one-on-one assassinations.

Hamas has been able to recruit women to take part in suicide bombings that inflicted mass death and casualties.

I don’t think there are any magic genes that insulate women from taking part in violent political action.

Comment by John · 08/04/04 12:32 PM
6  Beth Donovan wrote:

Personally, I think she looks Middle Eastern, but that’s not the point – the point is, anyone with an obviously Muslem name coming from another country should be scrutinized carefully, be they man or woman.

7  mary wrote:

When my mom was discussing the baking of cookies and other plans for Christmas 2001, she randomly mentioned that it would be nice to see Osama’s head hanging from the tree at Rockefeller center. I think history has proven that women are very capable of waging war, of going to great lengths to protect their families and their children.

Terrorism is a different matter. I still haven’t figured out why hiding one’s allegiance and deliberately targeting and slaughtering innocent people is considered to be a tactic of war or ‘revenge’. Those Russian theatergoers were not directly responsible for any deaths in Chechnya. They weren’t soldiers, they weren’t leaders, they were just easy targets.

I can’t get beyond the fact that terrorism is cowardly, nihilistic and stupid. I don’t know if that’s because I’m a woman, or if it’s just a failure of imagination, so I can’t speak for all women in general.

Comment by mary · 08/04/04 01:19 PM

In re profiling, racial and otherwise:

First, let me point out that it’s a black-and-white photograph, about which ethnic information can be dubious. She could be “lily-white”, or as swarthy as Middle Easterners often are; we can’t really tell.

As for profiling, it is my understanding that people who use it will make use of many factors. You don’t just focus all your attention on men of a specific age group, for example. You also look at names, you listen to languages (and accents) spoken, you look for telltales of luggage and clothing, and so on. Most particularly, you watch body language and behavior. Is this person nervous about something? Do they appear overdressed for the season? Do they show an unexpected deadpan when few other travellers do?

People who judge by these sorts of factors, in my experience, can get to a point where they’re very rarely wrong. They can also spot someone who exhibits some but not all of the characteristics they’re looking for… as in the case of a female suspect, for example. So I don’t have a problem with our security people working this way.

Can we expect significant numbers of female terrorists? Well, my feeling is that the anti-American terror is almost entirely Islamist, which preaches a hateful form of Islam as a matter of course. Subjugation of women is part and parcel with that… meaning that a woman who buys the Islamist line would be conditioned to see herself as subservient to men, not a potential fellow warrior.

So I think the female Islamist terrorist is a rare exception. (I believe some of the few we’ve heard about, in Israel for example, have been forced into it against their will.)

respectfully,
Daniel in Medford

9  Reid wrote:

There’s an interesting article in the Christian Science Monitor that touches on this, and it doesn’t sound like women are gathering to do violence on the West Bank, they’re gathering to restore order:
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Amid the devastation wrought by nearly four years of conflict with Israel, a subtle but significant transformation is under way in the lives of many Palestinian women. Normally confined to domestic chores and child care, they’re now playing central roles in the survival of families in which husbands have found themselves without work.

The crisis has emboldened women to assert themselves in new realms, from finding part-time work and taking control of family finances to political involvement. The newfound freedoms are even bucking the rising influence of fundamentalist Islam in the public lives of Palestinians.
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Comment by Reid · 08/05/04 02:14 PM
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