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Mon. Mar 10, 2008

Vetting Clinton

I started off this election cycle, what was it, nine years ago … nine months? Really? OK, back then I felt that, Number One, the Republican Party needed a resounding thumping so that they might go on a spirit walk in the wilderness and “Find Themselves” again. So I looked at the then vast Democratic field, and realized with Hillary at the top, it would likely eventually narrow down to her and one other. At that time, I could envision reconciling myself to voting for Hillary, if it turned out she was the Democrat with the best chance of winning. And, way back then, it was hard to argue otherwise.

While my vision of Republicans walking the wilderness seeking their True Conservative roots remains undiminished, an additional imperative has developed for me. It is no longer enough just to see the Bush Faux Conservative era end, I want to see the end of the Bush-Clinton era. I’ve come to see their politics as nearly one and the same. Divide and conquer. Or triangulate, as the case may be. And looking around at the populace, nearly every harsh partisan battle we’ve seen for two decades can be reduced to a Bush, or a Clinton.

I have not been driven to these opinions by any right wing conspiracy, it was the actions of the Clinton campaign itself that have placed the following burrs under my saddle.

We are continually told that Hillary Clinton is the candidate of 35 years of experience, the one who’s been completely vetted during her decades of service. There simply can be no more surprises about her.

Yet her behavior would indicate otherwise on the clear issue of releasing her tax returns. I say it’s a clear issue, because in her campaign for the Senate in New York, she berated her opponent heavily for failing to release his in a timely manner. The Clinton campaign has said [1] “are your taxes done yet? Wait until mid April,” and [2] she’s simply too busy running a campaign to release those right now, it will definitely happen before the fall campaign, though.

As for [1], no one expects her to release her 2007 return today, it’s perfectly legitimate to wait until mid-April for that. But what about the tax years 2000 through 2006? Why should they be delayed? As for [2], I can’t help but think Hillary won’t be the one running the Xerox machine to get these returns out, and I also believe her staff can complete any priority task they are given by their boss.

So, what’s the hold up? Will those returns reveal anything in a month that they will not today? Surely they aren’t going to change between now and then. So one must conclude there is simply something worth worrying about in the previous six years returns, and it is therefore worth delaying as long as possible on releasing them. Perhaps they’ll come out on April 23, the day after the Pennsylvania primary.

I’m sorry, I can come up with no legitimate reason that years 2000-2006 should not be released already, now, especially given her castigation of her one-time opponent for not releasing his.

Which brings us to the issue of what I call “The Rules.” We are a society of laws, rules, and order. We agree to the rules beforehand, and then we play the game. If, during the game, the impurity or inefficiency of a rule becomes apparent, or, heaven forbid, you realize that particular rule is working against Your Team … you still have to play by the rules. Otherwise people wonder what other rules you may choose to flaunt when it fits your whim.

So talk of seating the Florida and Michigan delegations “as is”, or that the popular vote should outweigh the determining delegate total, or the chestnut about how caucuses are “undemocratic” and therefore don’t matter, is all the talk of a Rulebreaker. Someone who might, say, look at a law passed by Congress, decide they don’t like it, and, I don’t know, sign it anyway and then say they don’t have to follow it because they deem it an unconstitutional restriction of their executive power.

Trust me, it could happen.

Then there’s the “experience” issue. So many false assumptions. First, there’s the base assumption that it is the most experienced candidate who will be best for the country. By this logic, Nixon would have become president in 1960, Carter would have been re-elected in 1980, and we would have rejected some young upstart named Clinton in favor of re-electing the vastly more experienced George Bush in 1992.

If you carry that “experience” argument into the fall in a Clinton versus McCain matchup, guess who loses?

There’s good reasons age and experience do not always win out over “youth” and vision. Bill Clinton offered many of them in 1992, when he was roughly the age Barack Obama is today, running as an agent of change versus the Same Old Status Quo Politics of DC.

Funny how arguments change, eh?

For example, on one day, you can suggest “Of course, well, you know, I’ve got a lifetime of experience. Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience. And you know, Senator Obama’s whole campaign is about one speech he made in 2002.” The implication being that while McCan and Clinton have the necessary experience to be Commander-in-Chief, Obama does not.

Then, the very next day, you can suggest he’d make a good VP on your ticket. The implication being, [1] that he is fully qualified to be Commander-in-Chief, in fact, one heartbeat away from the gig, and [2] maybe if you buy one you’ll get one free, as in, vote for me now, and you’ll get him later. It’s a most cynical ploy.

Then there’s the continually used phrase “35 years of experience.” That takes us back to when Clinton left law school. During those 35 years she did many things … other than hold elective office (that’s just the last eight years). By this logic, I could run for President claiming 30 years of experience, as I left Wake Forest University in 1977, and have done many things since then … other than hold elective office.

For example, during the past dozen years, I’ve gained vast experience in accounting. Because I’ve been in the same room when my wife does it, and have often talked to her about the problems she faces in her job. But trust me, you don’t really want me doing your books.

By the same token, Susan has over a decade of experience watching me build web pages. She has run a group weblog that I set up for her in Textpattern, and has even pointed and clicked her way to some actual HTML. But, she’ll be the first to admit, you really don’t want her designing your web site.

Many will say such a comparison is unfair. I’m willing to grant that as First Lady, Hillary got an inside view of a job that very few will ever understand .. except those who hold it. I’m willing to also grant she socialized with and hosted dignitaries of all stripes, with opportunities to be exposed to the diplomatic world in a way that very few can match.

But I am also left asking, what were her memorable accomplishments between 1992 and 2000? There was the health care debacle of the early 90’s, and though I’ve never placed that squarely and solely on her shoulders, it is her biggest policy involvement of that term. I also know that despite the failure of the primary effort, she succeeded in smaller health care initiatives for children and veterans later in the Clinton term. She also traveled abroad more than previous First Ladies. But does this constitute bona fide executive experience?

Much of it is a real stretch. On her web site, it says “As First Lady, she helped pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.” Yet as DailyKos points out...

If you don’t read this whole post, all you need to know is that Bill Clinton was inaugurated on January 20, 1993 and the FMLA was signed just sixteen days later, on February 5, 1993.

Just on that basis it doesn’t look like the First Lady had to do much of anything to get it done. But read on for the full chronology which reveals the emptiness of Hillary’s Clinton’s attempt to get credit for this legislation.

Well. Her most “memorable accomplishment,” to my mind, was to earn the enmity of a significant portion of the populace (not exactly a common accomplishment for First Ladies), one that remains today as evidenced by her relatively high negative ratings.

You can argue that was due to the right wing attacks on her and her husband, but in the end, I have to look to results, as we do with any President. And though she claims she is “fully vetted” because of how she beat those attacks, I would argue she survived them with significant and long lasting damage. That argument is bolstered when Rush Limbaugh urges his Texas listeners to vote for her in their primary, in hopes of keeping her in the race. She has a very real and hard ceiling on her support. And regardless of the “fairness” of that damage, it’s not deniable. In fact, in many ways, this campaign has provided ample fertilizer for growth in that area.

She’s the candidate of 50% plus one. And that’s a strategy that will last a long ways past November. We’ll get at least four and possibly eight years of partisan infighting, trying to get that last one above 50%. Because that’s all you need, right?

Myself, I’ve seen enough of that. I have come to associate our partisan bickering with two names, which have collectively been on the ballot for 20 years now. It’s time for a Bush-Clinton free election.

At the very least, after two decades, I think we owe ourselves the opportunity to see if we can make it four years without either of those families involved in the executive branch. And see how our political world might change, after over two decades of this. Try it, you might like it.

Peanut Gallery

1  rturner wrote:

I have good memories of the Clinton years, especially in view of what the Bush years have wrought. I didn’t pay a whole lot of attention to Hillary over the decade and a half and I always wondered why she had such high “negatives”. I attributed it to conservatives not liking “uppity” women. As I said earlier, I voted for her in the Georgia primary, thinking Obama wasn’t experienced enough, even though I “liked” him better.

I don’t fault her continuing to run. She has a lot of voters behind her and they deserve to see an outcome (although as Snoop said on the Wire, “deserve aint got nothin’ to do with it”). What I fault her for is for her serious character attacks on Obama. In a primary, you should never say that the Republican is more qualified, and you should never compare Obama to Ken Starr and then say, “It’s historically accurate” when questioned. I think a lot of people think she really is a “monster”.

She’s lost me, and if she somehow gets nominated after all this, I seriously doubt if half the Democratic party will even vote in November, and don’t even get me started on the Independents.

2  Reid wrote:

I have good memories of the Clinton years as well. I voted for him in 1992, because I was tired of the status quo. Still am, which is why I didn’t vote for Hillary.

Nor do I think Hillary has to withdraw right now. I do believe doing so would heal her legacy, and she eventually would be considered a hero for such sacrifice. But I also realize that is not the Clinton style, and though it is mathematically impossible for her to win democratically, I realize there are other possibilities, and that they likely intend to run out the string and explore them.

The real question becomes … when to give up? Does it happen before the last primary in June? Does it happen before the convention in August? Or does it simply not happen at all, and we get to witness a scorched earth campaign to the end?

If it is the latter, it will certainly put me on the horns of a dilemma. I’ve vowed not to vote for the Republican candidate, and I’ve also vowed it is time for the Bush-Clinton era to end. I may, once again, be left with no one to vote for, just two to vote against.

Comment by Reid · 03/10/08 12:35 PM
3  Todd++; wrote:

I’m using the ‘ABC’ rule in voting – ‘Anybody But Clinton’.

You act surprised she’s not releasing her taxes from past years, but I’m far from it- what I’d be surprised by is if Clinton (any Clinton) managed to run a campaign that WASN’T full of shady, suspicious, weird kinda things. The Clintons have skated the fine line between right and wrong, legal and illegal, honesty and lies for so long it’s as natural as breathing for them.

I’m in your boat too, Reid- it’d be a bad idea for the Republicans to have another four years to stack the Supreme Court into a tool they can use to legislate through, but I just could not face myself if I pulled a lever (or touched a screen, as may be) for a Clinton.

4  Reid wrote:

How can it be that in an election that started off with about two dozen candidates, sensible people like you and I could conceivably end up voting for “None Of The Above,” or like 40% of the voters in Michigan, “Uncommitted.”

I was forced to vote for that candidate in 1996 and 2004. Don’t make me do it again.

Comment by Reid · 03/13/08 01:20 PM
5  DanS. wrote:

I say give both Hill and Barack exactly half each of both Michigan & FLA delgates, let both sides claim victory and let status quo then reign.

Elsewise, Fl & MI set an unwanted precedent for future chaos for those who would knowingly break the rules knowing they get a mulligan.

Every day a Clinton (any Clinton) opens his/her mouth it’s to see just how muddy they can make the ragged edge of the place where right & wrong meet … truth be damned … as long as said Clinton gets his/her way. Elsewise, they are of course for nothing more than Peace, Truth, Justice & the American Way.

Shorter version: Don’t reward rule-breakers!

Comment by DanS. · 03/13/08 06:09 PM
6  Reid wrote:

The latest idea floated is to split the Michigan delegates 50/50, and in Florida, use the actual results of the primary, but cut the delegate total by 50% as a penalty. This would likely result in about 19 extra delegates for Clinton, and some think that with a 160 delegate lead, that’s a deal that Obama could live with.

But I can’t help but think if I’d been in Florida, after being told my vote wasn’t going to count, I’m not sure I would have shown up at all. How many people in Florida would vote in a “for sure gonna make a difference” primary in late May that did not vote in the “going through the motions” primary in January? Everyone is using “disenfranchisement” as a talking point for why these delegations must be seated, but the fact is, you’ve disenfranchised many by the very process of telling them “does not count … well, maybe it will count for half, we’ll see.”

It was the state parties who made this mess. It’s the voters who are paying for it. To me, the most democratic and responsible answer is to [1] have complete re-votes in both places, and [2] no matter how they protest, make the state parties pay for them … even if they have to mortgage their financial future to do it.

There has to be a real cost for this, or else in 2012, the states will scramble the process even worse.

Comment by Reid · 03/14/08 10:36 AM
7  DanS. wrote:

Amen!

Comment by DanS. · 03/14/08 11:25 AM
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