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Sun. Jul 10, 2005

Debating the Cause

It was entirely predictable, but after the attacks in London, the debate has often turned straight to Iraq. Rather than get into it myself, I just have some lengthy quotes from others.

A call:

But it was Dr Assami Tamimi, of the Muslim Association of Britain, who drew the biggest response from the crowd.

He told the BBC News website a “three-pronged” approach was needed to combat such attacks.

“Firstly, we have to be vigilant as citizens and co-operate with the security services.

“Muslims also need to kill the ideology behind this, that justifies the killing of innocents – this is Machiavellian and is anti-Islamic.

“And we need to pressure the government to change its policy. If we hadn’t had the war in Iraq this would never have happened.”

BBC: Vigil sends ‘message of commiseration’

And a response, from Nick Cohen:

In these bleak days, it’s worth remembering what was said after September 2001. A backward glance shows that before the war against the Taliban and long before the war against Saddam Hussein, there were many who had determined that ‘we had it coming’. They had to convince themselves that Islamism was a Western creation: a comprehensible reaction to the International Monetary Fund or hanging chads in Florida or whatever else was agitating them, rather than an autonomous psychopathic force with reasons of its own. In the years since, this manic masochism has spread like bindweed and strangled leftish and much conservative thought.

At no point did they grasp that Islamism was a reactionary movement as great as fascism, which had claimed millions of mainly Muslim lives in the Sudan, Iran, Algeria and Afghanistan and is claiming thousands in Iraq. As with fascism, it takes a resolute dunderheadedness to put all the responsibility on democratic governments for its existence.

I feel the appeal, believe me. You are exasperated with the manifold faults of Tony Blair and George W Bush. Fighting your government is what you know how to do and what you want to do, and when you are confronted with totalitarian forces which are far worse than your government, the easy solution is to blame your government for them.

But it’s a parochial line of reasoning to suppose that all bad, or all good, comes from the West – and a racist one to boot. The unavoidable consequence is that you must refuse to support democrats, liberals, feminists and socialists in the Arab world and Iran who are the victims of Islamism in its Sunni and Shia guises because you are too compromised to condemn their persecutors.

Islamism stops being an ideology intent on building an empire from Andalusia to Indonesia, destroying democracy and subjugating women and becomes, by the magic of parochial reasoning, a protest movement on a par with Make Poverty History or the TUC.

Again, I understand the appeal. Whether you are brown or white, Muslim, Christian, Jew or atheist, it is uncomfortable to face the fact that there is a messianic cult of death which, like European fascism and communism before it, will send you to your grave whatever you do. But I’m afraid that’s what the record shows.

Our options are as limited When Abu Bakr Bashir was arrested for the Bali bombings, he was asked how the families of the dead could avoid the fate of their relatives. ‘Please convert to Islam,’ he replied. But as the past 40 years have shown, Islamism is mainly concerned with killing and oppressing Muslims.

There are many tasks in the coming days. Staying calm, helping the police and protecting Muslim communities from neo-Nazi attack are high among them. But the greatest is to resolve to see the world for what it is and remove the twin vices of wilful myopia and bad faith which have disfigured too much liberal thought for too long.

The Observer: Face up to the truth

I would say those “twin vices” have disfigured much of what passes for “conservative” thought, as well. But otherwise, there’s not much to add.

Peanut Gallery

1  Zack wrote:

Dr Assami Tamimi: “If we hadn’t had the war in Iraq this would never have happened.”

This is as wrong as the hawks who are saying that the London bombings show that the Iraq war was right.

Comment by Zack · 07/10/05 03:24 PM
2  Reid wrote:

Agreed. The quickness with which both “sides” started building talking points out of death in London is both indicative and completely unsurprising. It’s a harsh reinforcement of what I’ve already said.

Both arguments ignore history and a string of acts, from a declaration of war against the US and her allies in 1998, to embassy bombings that killed 300 Africans and wounded a thousand more that same year, to the attack on the USS Cole, and 9/11 itself.

None of those had anything to do with Bush, or Blair, or Iraq, or Afghanistan. And if those two men and those two countries had never entered our regular news lexicon, Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda-like groups would still be launching attacks against the West today.

One would almost think that, for some, these terrorist attacks have devolved into just another medium for political warfare, just fodder for more partisan indictment. And not the acts of an enemy who would like to destroy us all, red and blue alike.

Comment by Reid · 07/10/05 03:43 PM
3  emcee fleshy wrote:

Somehow, many Americans have missed the one bit of good news in all of this. Over the past four years, there have been bombings and attacks in London, Madrid, Bali, Moscow and other places. There have been none in the U.S.

To acknowledge that wouldn’t be particularly useful for either the right (don’t let your guard down!) or the left (Never give W credit for anything no matter what!), but it is quite important. The department of Homeland Security, idiotic airport protocols aside, appears to be doing its job.

4  Reid wrote:

I think it’s been a bit hard for most Americans to think about “good news” over the past few days. Seems a bit like schadenfreude. But that has also obscured another piece of debatably “good news” (debatable particularly by those who lost a loved one in the London attacks).

On 9/11, the death toll was four figures. In Madrid and Bali, the death toll was three figures. In London, it’s two figures.

No solace to those who’ve suffered a devastating loss, nor a guarantee the trend will continue … but it’s a clear pattern.

Comment by Reid · 07/10/05 11:40 PM
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