Mon. Oct 18, 2004
Pondering the Polls
Over the next two weeks, we’ll likely be inundated with polls from various media outlets and other entities. It’s likely no two of them will say the same thing. We’ve heard they’re neck and neck, Bush is up by 2, Kerry has the momentum, and down the stretch Secretariat rises from the dead to win by a half length.
Personally, in this most volatile election year, I don’t think they’re worth the effort expended to create them (other than the fact there’s now an entire polling industry to support).
During my days in radio, I had to learn far more than I ever cared to know about polling and statistics due to the fact we lived and died by the Arbitron ratings book. Sample sizes (and sample controls) are critical, and I tend to ignore polls with less than a thousand respondents (preferably 1,200), as the margin of error and lack of a statistically significant sample potentially overwhelms the accuracy of any outcome. If you want to convince me about the breakdown of 100,000,000+ voters, and you can’t ask 1,000+ people, I’m not listening.
But when you’re polling voters, another element is often added; the poll of “likely voters,” a far narrower subset than simply “registered voters.” How the heck do they determine who is a “likely voter”? Well, one common way is to ask a simple question: on a scale of 1 to 10, what is your interest level in the election? Only those that respond 9 or 10 get counted in a poll of “likely voters.” To me, you’ve immediately skewed your results by sampling only the most partisan of all those questioned, i.e., those who’d likely answer 10 or 9 to that question. Frankly, my honest answer to that question would be “8,” and I’ve written tens of thousands of words here about the election. But I know many other people far more interested and active in this election than I.
However, there’s an even bigger flaw in these polls that that. In the 2000 election, 105 million voted. I’ve seen various sources predict a range of between 112 million and 120 million may vote this year. A couple of weeks ago, I read in the local paper that the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office was receiving new registrations at a rate of 40-50,000 per day. Just for Georgia.
Nevermind cell phone users and others excluded from current samples, no one is polling these newly registered people. They comprise 10% or more of the coming electorate, and it seems they are a complete unknown.
It’s also good to keep in mind that some of the polls were saying at this point in 2000 that Bush led by 52-39. Those numbers turned out to be off by a country mile.
And this time around, there’s 7-15,000,000 people showing up who didn’t in 2000. Despite those who’d like to convince you (one way or the other) that’s it’s all over but the counting, right now, we know nothing. Nor are we likely to until November 3. If we’re lucky.
Published 12:14AM, Mon, Oct 18 2004
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My gut feeling is that this will not end up nearly as close as the 2000 election. I think one or the other of them will have close to 300 electoral votes, not the dreaded 271-271 tie. I think the polls are so far off base in their methodology (i.e., who they are measuring) as to be worthless.
I just honestly cannot call which way it’s going to go, not based on anything factual. But if you want to go “by gut,” if I was forced to bet $100 on who will win this election (i.e., not who I want to win, but who I think will win), I’d put it on Kerry. Today. But you’d better check back tomorrow.
The one thing I have noticed this year is the margin of error is really big in alot of polls. I seem to remember that an MOE of 3 was the norm last time around. This time 4 is normal and I have even seen them as high as 5. What good is that?
A great example is rassmussen, whose daily sample swung 12 points in the last two days. Fascinating.
There’s a great article in WaPo today about the registration efforts of the two parties. Leaves as many questions as answers, but interesting nonetheless.
And here’s hoping that somebody gets blown out by a healthy margin, so at least we’ll know who the President ought to be.
www.mysterypollster.com has interesting things to say.



Nor are we likely to until November 3. If we’re lucky.
Groan…..
I hope at least one of them is surging bigtime on election day. Kerry’s got to have a surge to overcome all the voter suppression fraud that’s widespread this year. Bush needs a surge to overcome the undecideds, who typically go to the challenger. Let’s see, what will it be? The scariest terror alert ever a few days before Nov. 2? A Nov. 1 announcement that it “appears” that Osama bin Laden has been captured or killed (we won’t know for sure for a few days)? So far, this is all we really know for sure: Kerry will go to the UN to ask how he should respond if we get attacked again, plus he’s a bad man who hurts Republicans’ feelings. And starting in January, Bush will dismantle Social Security and start instituting a draft.
I’m ready for one a those ex-ten-ded va-ca-tions.