Wed. Jul 02, 2003
Individuals and Communities
Individuals and Communities – While reading various reactions to RSS/API Soap Opera Episode #241, I saw more than one person say, “That Whiner guy needs to read this”: “I don’t usually deviate from my own little world here but every now and again I’ll see a link on a blog and follow it, then another and another until I finally look around and realize that I’m not in Kansas anymore. Things are ugly out there, you know? People are pronouncing themselves ‘A-List’ bloggers and similar.”
“If every one of these people disappeared tomorrow they would register hardly a blip on the radar – the same goes for any of us, whether we get twelve or twelve thousand visits per day. If we quit all that would do is free up the bandwidth for someone else to step up and take our place – that’s the fluid nature of the internet. Anyone who thinks otherwise is rather full of themselves. At the end of the day who is our biggest fan? Ourselves. Period.”
Well, now, that cuts pretty close to the bone on this one, doesn’t it? We all like to think we contribute something unique … and we do. But so does everyone else. Whatever it is you do, however well you do it, there is someone out there who either does it better, does it as well, or does it slightly less well, but so slightly that no one else can tell the difference.
There’s nothing at all wrong with having pride in your accomplishments, or even tooting your own horn in moderation (who else will?). But when you become convinced your work is irreplaceable, you might ought to take a step back to determine if that’s really true. And if it is, if that’s wise. This whole arena reminds me of the words of Bertrand Russell: “One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one’s work is terribly important.”
I’d bet the people who put together the HTML 2.0 spec thought their work was terribly important. And it was. But it has been since been superseded and improved upon, several times. That’s the way the world works. And that’s the way the Internet works, times ten.
While things never stay the same, you can’t help but trace the lineage and see the influences of the past. Which brings me back to another piece of that article: “I’ve been telling Andy for ages that this whole thing, the blogging ‘community’ as it were, is preparing to implode on itself. What used to be quite a fun little diversion in the day has turned into, basically, a really huge newsgroup.”
That comment really struck me. Because last night, I was thinking about the similar “community” nature of Usenet newsgroups and weblogs. Except, my comparison had a much warmer light on it, based on my introduction to Usenet.
When I first got an account with an ISP in January, 1996 (the dearly departed Mindspring), they sent me 7 floppy disks containing all the software I would need to take advantage of the Internet. In addition to Netscape 1.2, Eudora Lite 1.0, and some kinda cartoon programs called Archie and Gopher, it had a version of Free Agent. And when I opened it, it was preloaded and subscribed to a series of mindspring.* newsgroups. These were internal newsgroups accessible only to Mindspringers (about 19,000 at that time), so I figured it would be a good tame place to learn about Usenet, which I’d heard was a sort of digital Wild West.
I was both right and wrong. It was far from tame, but it was the perfect place to learn about Usenet, and much more. In addition to the expected tech support newsgroups, there was a group called mindspring.general. It was intended for the discussion of Mindspring policies and services, but it also became a place for general discussion. And mayhem.
It’s hard for me to describe my experience the first time I read the group. There were maybe 30 or 40 “regular” posters … and employees. And it was quickly clear, these were serious people. It was my first encounter with the now familiar concept that the Internet is filled with people who know a lot more than you. And on Usenet, it is said that if you want an expert answer to a tough question, just post the wrong answer. Someone will come along and dissect it in detail shortly, as well as provide the real answer.
It was about 5 months before I did anything other than simply read. Every day. It was only the Olympics, and the desire to promote what I was doing, that finally brought me to post in that group. But it quickly became a very enjoyable (if fractious) and very real community for me. Topics of the day were debated, smart minds were brought to bear, and sparks flew. But no real fires.
But of course, that changed. As Mindspring absorbed other ISP’s and grew to have millions of customers, that newsgroup evolved. It got a bit ugly at times. Management eventually broke that one group into three (right after The Great Counting … but we won’t go there), and even then, there was substance to be had amongst the dreck. For a while.
But as I’ve said, all things change. Mindspring was absorbed by Earthlink, and while those newsgroups are still there, they are now merely empty sectors on a server down Peachtree Street. There’s no community, and hasn’t been for a long time.
Fortunately for me, about the same time that community was dying out, weblogs were blooming by the scores. Early on, I told some of my former correspondents in the group that I had my own newsgroup now, and could even delete the trolls. A few stopped by now and again, but only one has become a “regular” here. And that’s OK, because there’s a new cast of regulars. Not just here, but in all the weblogs around.
To me, it’s the same kind of community mind, debating topics in both heated and intellectual ways. In a more moderated environment. The connections are still made, via comments or Trackback, or off site followups with links. Of course, there will always be trolls. They can even build their own weblogs now (though most seem to prefer the habitats of comments sections). And I guess there is always the possibility the Blogosphere will “implode on itself.” But I note she’s been telling Andy that for “ages,” and it still doesn’t exactly appear imminent.
Personally, I think it’s like the rest of the Internet; whatever damage occurs to the Blogosphere, it will be routed around. Whether it is some individual stomping away mad, or the Kaycee Nicole fiasco that some thought would ruin trust in weblogs, or simply buying a domain and setting up MT to route around the damage that is often called “Blogspot.”
Whatever might come up, people will figure out a way to keep doing it. Even when they want to stomp away mad.
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Enjoyed your perspective today and especially the trip down memory lane, though I came to Mindspring via Pipeline, the journey was still a great one. Glad I met you on the way.
Rick posted posted a comment in MNID and it triggered a reaction - Hell, I was there. Wish we could see you over there more often.
Rick! Floyd! What other Assholes did you bring with you (very internal newsgroup joke)? Just had to come along and nearly instantly make a liar out of me ("only one has become a 'regular' here")? I'd stop by and see what nastiness you said about me in misc.news.internet.discuss, but frankly, since I got this computer in January, I haven't even installed a news reader on it. I think it's got Outlook Express ... like I said, I haven't got a newsreader. Just play nice since I can't defend myself properly. And stop by more often.
Hi PhotoDude; Long time no see. Damn, I'll need a microscope to read stuff over here. I'm in 1400 x 1150 on this laptop. If you want to catchup I'll sell ya a few CDs with all the messages you have missed! Also have available eXcel and Access files with all the posting stats!!!!!!! Just joking. Some of the old guys hang out on a private server that rick can probably tell you about. Don't want to post the address over here. The mad monk runs it. Hasta la vista bud. Walt
Walt, I run 2048x768, and I can see it just fine. It's your eyes. Age. Decay. Too much North Carolina moonshine. And don't make me comment on your small ... laptop. These days, I hardly have time to read all my e-mail, nevermind newsgroups. And limited memory allocations as well. Too many inside jokes to remember. I wonder how long it's been since someone changed the water in the 'cooler?
Hiya PhotoDude, You may have left usenet, but you've not been forgotten. Your name pops up at some of the most unlikely times, but always with a smile on our fingers. Let's see if I remember. 1. convert to bitmap 2. crop 3. reduce file to 600 x 450 4. sharpen 5. save in .jpg format. Is a smiley face allowed? Judy~
I wasn't there for the birth of the Mindspring groups, joining later during the great AT&T migration. By the time I landed on Mindspring, strange traditions had already rooted in mindspring.general. Smilies were frowned upon (especially by Reid). Sarcasm was an art form. Pussies and Asshole abounded. It was a long, strange trip for one fresh from the fluffy feel-good Worldnet groups, and I relished it. I loved mindspring.general and the kooky cast of characters that inhabited same. Thanks for the memory, Read [smiley removed by filter] Gina
Gina's comment: "Pussies and Asshole abounded." No MDG was not a porno group. These were the affectionate titles we gave each other when it was deemed they had been earned. Many strove diligently to aquire these titles of honor too ! Anyone seen Jason lately ?
I had no idea when I made this entry that it would draw so many of the old gang out of the woodwork. I even ran into Chief Broom (former Road Trip cohort and Fellow Asshole). As I said, “Now *this* was worth installing a newsreader. Even if just for a few minutes.” Judy, it's good to hear from you, and yes, you've still got it right (though 600 x 450 is a bit restrictive). And no, smiley's are not allowed, as you can tell from the filter in Gina's comment. And, Gina, you forgot one other subgroup .... Pollyannas. Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Shadow Dancer lately? And, no Rick, I haven't specifically heard from Jason, but given his past behavior on Usenet, he could be in m.n.i.d. right now. Y'all do know that he was actually Booty, don't you?
Damn, look at all these old names. The word still gets out pretty quick I see, even in the geriatric ward. Pollyannas, bootys, mad monks, the spin I heard on Jason was that he was over in mnid surrepticiously cancelling posts until pickin's got so bare that the denizens went elsewhere for entertainment. It seems a lot of the newfangled news servers geared toward the suburban newbie binary-guzzling crowd don't carry basic groups like control.cancel. heh heh. While we're reminiscing about the wild west that used to be, I might say that my first intro to usenet came with netcom.general, thinking like you, oh, this will be a safe place to learn the rules of the road. (yeah, right!) Now *that* was a newsgroup. I can honestly say there were suicides there, or there should've been in any rational world. Having survived that one, mindspring.general was pretty tame. Until of course, we got it properly tuned up.
I finally got around to reconnecting to the Earthlink news server; they've deleted m.d.g and the 'cooler. I know the lights were turned off long ago but now the fixtures are gone, too.
Hmmm. I still connect to the Mindspring news server, and was just able to download one lonely 5 day old post in m.d.g., but not a peep in any of the other mindspring.* groups. Maybe they still exist on the Mindspring server, but not Earthlink's.