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i'm sorry you feel that way. i am pro-life, not anti-abortion, and i want this scumbag put away as badly as you do. i hope they get him and he is treated as he deserved for his crimes.

"[I]f you kill innocent unarmed civilians as a means of advancing your cause, you have forfeited any honor your cause ever had." --- Does this then mean you believe the US has 'forfeited' the 'honor' of its 'cause' in Afghanistan? For, as the Pentagon has even admitted (most recent reference: the massacre at Uruzgan), it's quite clear the US kills many innocent, unarmed civilians in its march to fulfil its agenda. And while you may claim that the US does not kill innocent civilians intentionally, that claim is quite easily disproven when examining evidence such as the indiscriminate use of cluster bombs in Laos (manufactured to stay dormant for decades, killing children to this day 30 years after the illegal bombings took place) or the use of depleted uranium ammunitions in Iraq and Serbia (containing poisonous doses of radiation that will remain dangerous of thousands of years). Surely the facts speak quite clearly: the US kills innocent, unarmed civilians quite often. So I'd have to agree with you, the 'cause' of your country has 'lost' its 'honor'.

The stretch you make is a huge one, from those whose intent is to do nothing but kill civilians, and those who go to great lengths to avoid civilian deaths in the pursuit of military objectives, even if both result in deaths. The intent tells all. And while you're digging through history looking for parallels, see if you can find a single country that has done more in its war efforts to prevent civilian death. Ever. Compare the war tactics of other countries in the past thirty years; the gassings and missile attacks by Saddam, the blanket bombings of the Soviets, the Serbs "ethnic cleansing" of Kovovars and Bosnians, and while you're over there looking at cluster bombs in SE Asia, look into the tactics of Pol Pot. With few exceptions, you'll be hard pressed to find an instance where the dominant force was anything less than coldly ruthless with civilian populations. Is the US perfect in this regard? No. But there's no other power in recent history that's made one tenth the efforts the US has in this regard. To compare those efforts with a bomber who intentionally killed innocents at a concert with a backpack bomb fractures rationality.

Actually living in Southeast Asia probably allows me a better perspective of the destructive forces of the US at work than the comfort of suburban Southeast America. A glance around the region shows me this: In Laos, families to do this day are blown apart by unearthed ordinance dropped during the many years of illegal US bombing. The defoliant Agent Orange, dumped on Viet Nam by the ton, still poisons the water supply of hundreds of villages. Let's think for a minute: did the US military really expect that OA would disappear after its job was done? Or, more likely, did they not give a second thought to the fact that pouring poison over thousands of acres of inhabited woodland would evenutally seriously effect the health of thousands of innocent, unarmed civilians? And since you mentioned Pol Pot, let's have a quick look at Cambodia: the early success of the Khmer Rouge was arguably a byproduct of the destabilising effect of continuous, illegal US carpet-bombing of unarmed, innocent Cambodian civilians. Claims of 600,000 to "more than 1 million" dead are credible. Seems the US was not so good at avoiding civilian casualties. How can killing a million people be unintentional? And as if that weren't bad enough, then try this: After the North Vietnamese removed the KR from power, the US supported Pol Pot and his forces, despite the fact the everyone knew of his responsibility for Cambodia's genocide. For years the US funded, armed and encouraged the KR to continue a bloody civil war. During this time the US recognised the KR as the only valid gov't of Cambodia, even allowing Ieng Sary to represent the country at the UN! It's depressingly easy to continue: Indonesia's brutal occupation of East Timor was encouraged by Ford's adminstration, Thai citizens are dying from Agent Orange canisters buried under their fields. The evidence is clear: the US intends to kill civilians. Your country is as morally corrupt as any murdering lone terrorist. And the damage it causes is far, far greater. Until American stops inflicting such horrible pain overseas, it will continue to be hated and despised around the world. And some clever people will continue to go to great lengths to inflict pain on Americans.

Yes, you list quite a litany of woe. But have you noticed, in the US people saw the war in SE Asia as wrong, both protesting it at the time, and in historical context afterwards? People were killed in the US protesting the Vietnam War. Were they morally corrupt? If not, how can you say that the entire nation was/is morally corrupt? It is far from uncommon in this world for a nation's government to act outside the will of the people. You cannot name one country in history where this hasn't occurred. Nor is it uncommon that in the course of war terrible things happen to innocents. We got out of SE Asia, and it is historically looked back upon by many as a mistake. But today, 30 years later, do we have Laotians crashing planes into skyscrapers, or Cambodian's commiting suicide bombings? No, it's Islamic fundamentalists. This isn't the Hatfields vs. the McCoys, a generations long feud that stretches back to wrongs committed 30, 40, 50 years ago. The past several military actions by the US have been on behalf of Muslims: Kuwaiti's, Bosnians, Kosovars. Are those the ones hitting the US via suicide attack? No. I won't argue with you about the validity of your claims regarding SE Asia. But what happened in that corner of the earth 30 years ago has no bearing on a mostly Saudi suicide attack 6 months ago by religious fanatics. One that intended to do nothing but kill civilians, in the name of God. I have no doubt, just like every country that has ever existed, this country has done wrong at times. The further back you go, the more you can find. I also have no doubt that there can be no moral justification for what happened 9-11, by the hands of religious fanatics.

Rudolph didn't have any causes. He just wanted to harm police officers and gov't officials. He would draw attention to the dangerous situations, and by the time the officials arrived, the bomb would detonate. Those "causes" were just a way to get people sidetracked and all riled up. Anyhow, I think that Rudolph could possibly be this sniper in VA and MD. YOu never know. . .

Eric Rudolph is a brave man that did what he thought was right. And me and thousands of other people love him for that.

BigD, you get your own special thread in response.

This young man, eric may claim that he is doing this in the name of God, but he is so far from the truth of the real God, it's ridiculous. You know, this is all we need, another crazy idiot giving Christianity a bad name. i believe in saving babies from abortion however, my strategy is not going to go blow up the clinics, anymore than burning down clubs and porno shops because i don't agree they should be here. besides, even if i blew up every clinic supporting abortion on the planet, and destroyed every club, porno shop, lingerie shop, beer barn, liquor store, cigarette company, etc. i've only treated the symptoms, not the disease. the disease is sin and the person has to deal with his/her own sin before God deals with it, with them, one on one, come judgement day. i pray these "so - called", christians, will keep things in perspective. standing in front of an abortion clinic with signs and protesting is simply treating the symptoms. why don't we instead, talk to the lost and confused mothers and try to help them make a conscious decision over their child that is about to be born and help them that way...you know.

You'd think even a self-respecting troll would have better ways to spend his time on a Sunday night ...

"if you kill innocent unarmed civilians as a means of advancing your cause, you have forfeited any honor your cause ever had. " A perfect description of every Pro-Choice activist and politician as nothing is more innocent than an unborn child.

When "every Pro-Choice activist and politician" starts placing 40 pound backpack bombs in large crowds of random civilians, leaving a child with a murdered mother, leaving random people crippled ... then your argument will hold water.